An excellent programme showing the creation and evolution debate. Enjoy!
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How can you demonstrate that you love someone? You could buy them an expensive ring. I’m sure that would help, because it’s tangible evidence of a sacrifice. Still, it comes back to belief. If the person you love chooses not to believe that you love them, there’s nothing you can do about it.
I was in New Zealand recently at a university where local Christians had organized a debate between myself and an atheist. Just before it started a tall outspoken man named Ryan enthusiastically approached me and said something like, “I’m honored to meet you. I have watched your videos on the Internet, read your material, and here I am actually getting to meet you. I am really excited about this debate.” As he was walking back to his seat I called out, “Which side are you on?” and he replied, “I’m against everything you stand for.”
During the question-time Ryan asked some good questions. The next day he showed up at another meeting at which I was speaking, then he listened to me again, for another hour or so at a church service. Afterwards, we chatted, I signed a book for him, we had our photo taken, and he even helped on the book table. I really cared about Ryan and was pleased to hear him say at the end of the evening, “Man, why are you so likeable!!!” The fact that he could feel my love and concern for him was more powerful than any argument I could give him for the existence of God.
Some of you who are atheists read everything I write as if I write in hatred. Yet I love and care about you. If I could have lunch with you, I would, and I would gladly pay the tab. But if you refuse to believe that, I can’t do anything about it.
You accuse me of making money from the sale of my books, but did you know that I have preached open air more than 5,000 times and never been paid? I do that because I love people and care where they spend eternity. If I didn’t care, I wouldn’t bother with preaching, blogging, producing a TV program, or writing Christian books. I had a very successful business before I became a Christian and could have made a good living, but I chose to spend my life pleading with people like you to consider where you will spend eternity.
So think about my motive, and then please think of God’s motive for the cross: “But God shows and clearly proves His [own] love for us by the fact that while we were still sinners, Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One) died for us” (Romans 5:8, Amplified Bible). That’s the ultimate sacrifice. It’s up to you to believe it.
“Hey I just saw your new billboard on the 105 near my house. Thanks for clarifying for me that it is illogical to believe that things don’t just come from nothing ‘magically.’ Seriously, how can milk and honey just exist? Their mere existence proves that God exists since everything has a creator. I have one concern though, based on your logic. Who created God? Did He just magically appear? According to what your arguing, it’s silly to believe that. I mean, everything has a creator right? Things don’t just magically appear out of thin air. So who created God? Or is your brand of logic only applicable against what you disagree with? Thank you for solidifying my beliefs.”
Atheists often plead ignorance when it comes to the Initial Cause–as to what came before the Big Bang. Whatever it was that created the material for it to take place, had to be non-material (therefore free from the law of entropy), as well as dwell outside of the dimension of time (time logically demands that everything has a beginning and an end).
The Spirit of God qualifies for both (see Genesis 1:2). He is spirit (without a material body). He created time and is therefore not subject to it (revealed in the perfectly fulfilled Messianic prophecies).
You are right when you say that nothing “magically appears.” God is eternal–without beginning and without end, but He is also perfect in holiness. So whatever you do in this life, make sure you are right with Him because you don’t want to collect your due wages (see Romans 6:23). www.NeedGod.com
“You march ahead unchanged, repeating the same falsehoods. I’m not talking about reasonable differences in interpretation, I’m talking about outright misinformation (such as the bizarre idea that male and female have to evolve separately for each species . . . ” Euphimist
It’s difficult not to be repetitive with accusations such as the above. But here goes. There are an estimated 1.4 million species on the earth. Each species has both male and female (not counting worms and a few others). Let’s believe that each species did evolve. Let’s then zero in on the giraffe. After the big bang, there was a pre-giraffe animal. Millions (perhaps billions) of years pass until today, and now we have a male and female giraffe. Evolutionists believe that the two didn’t evolve separately. Such a thought is “bizarre.”
I know that you think I am intellectually slow, so please be patient with me and explain to me in very simple terms where you believe the female giraffe came from, and then explain how and why the other 1.4 million species ended up with both male and female.
I look forward to your comments.
My wife and I have a chicken coop at home. I like chickens, and even gave the ladies their own names. There’s Fingerlinkin’, Roast, and Crispy, just to name a few. I put their names on the wall of the coop to remind them that they are to lay eggs for our family. It seems to be working.
So which came first, the chicken or the egg? For those who believe the Bible, it was the chicken, and the first egg came some time later. However, it’s not so simple among the Genesis-less generation. Did the first chicken come from the first egg, or was it the chicken that first laid the first egg? Long ago, even Aristotle (384-322 BC) spoke of the egg dilemma. He philosophized: “For there could not have been a first egg to give a beginning to birds, or there should have been a first bird which gave a beginning to eggs; for a bird comes from an egg.”
Let’s get into a little philosophical talk ourselves. Let’s say evolution was responsible for the beginning, and let’s say the egg was the first to evolve (before the chicken). Why did it do that? Why would there be nothing, and over millions of years, nothing became simple organisms, then these organisms became an egg? I can understand that a fish evolved legs and lungs over millions of years–because he (and his necessary female help mate) wanted to breathe, and to walk on dry land. But why would a thoughtless egg appear first and then want to become a chicken? How and why did it evolve with a yolk, a white, and a shell shaped like . . . like and egg?
If the egg was shaped with a rounded point at each end for ease-of-laying (a square egg would be painful), how did evolution know to make it that shape if there were never any chickens in the first place to know that an egg is made to be laid? Another small dilemma. How did the first egg get fertilized to become the first chicken? What or who fertilized it, and why did he fertilize it and sit on it until it hatched? How did the fertilizing creature evolve and have the ability to fertilize an egg that he found. How did he get the seed into the egg to fertilize it? And why did the (rooster) evolve as a bird? Unless he was an egg first, and if so, we have the above questions to deal with, because his egg would also need to be fertilized. Who did the fertilizing?
Evolution certainly is a fairytale for grown-ups.
I have included the text of Romans 1.18-32 below. The Bible text is in red, and my comments are interspersed with the text. At the end of the Bible text, I will talk about the problem with unrighteousness.
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
This verse tells us the problem of humanity: the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness. The phrase “wrath of God” is only used 4 times in the Bible (Romans 1.18, John 3.36, Ephesians 5.6, Col. 3.6) and it does not mean that God is having a temper tantrum. It means that God is going to punish all unrighteousness. This has happened once before in the world-wide flood of Noah (Genesis 6) and will happen again when the world is destroyed by fire.
As we shall shortly see in the remainder of this chapter, everyone in the world is unrighteous on the basis of their actions. Therefore everyone must be punished by God. God is a good, just God and must punish all unrighteousness.
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
This verse explains why God is going to punish everyone that is unrighteous. They should know the laws of God – God has shown everyone what is known of God. Or put more simply: God has created everyone with the ability to know right from wrong. We call this the conscience. No one who acts in an unrighteous way can ever say that they did not know how to act right. Every time they act unrighteous, they know they have done wrong. The voice that tells them right or wrong might be silenced by continual wrong-doing, but no-one can ever claim it was not there or that they did not know they have done wrong.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
The second reason that no-one can be excused for acting unrighteously is the creation of the world. The creation of the world proves that God is all powerful and that He is Lord. People might claim they think this world began in an explosion of nothing and that life came from non-living material, but itis scientifically impossible and is simply a denial of what the Bible says can be clearly seen. If you see a building, you have proof there is a builder. If you see a creation, you have proof there is a creator.
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
So although every single human born has both a conscience and creation to prove to them there is a God and that they should live a righteous life, every human has done 4 things wrong:
1. They failed to glorify God
2. They were not thankful to God
3. They became vain in their imaginations
4. Their foolish hearts were darkened
Every person should know there is a God and that they should live right. Every person has violated their own conscience and done things they know to be wrong.
Firstly, everyone has failed to glorify God. To glorify God means to acknowledge that God is great, to think highly of God. We have not done that – we have blamed God for our problems, we have thought that He is like us that He does not mind our sin, that He is not holy. Every depiction of God in the media reduces Him from His true greatness. We all have doubted that God would come through for us, we all have doubted His Word, doubted His love, doubted His holiness and His greatness.
Secondly, everyone has failed to be grateful. In particular this is a Western problem. We are panicking that we cannot buy the same amount of food we used to be able to in the credit crunch, but we forget how blessed we are to live where we live. All of us have spent time moaning about the negative and ignoring the positive.
Thirdly, we have all become vain in our imaginations. We have imagined ourselves committing sins of violence and sins of sexual immorality in our minds, we have imagined and worried about things that God promised to protect us from. Our imaginations run wild, and we fill them up with junk from the TV just to make it worse.
Fourthly, we have all had darkened hearts. God has tried to speak to us but we could not hear Him. We failed to notice Him ministering to us again and agani.
Every human being has done these things in every single nation. Every human is unrighteous in God’s eyes and therefore must be punished. This is the problem of humanity – God’s goodness means He must punish unrighteousnes (the wrath of God) and every human is unrighteous.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
As an aside on v. 22, I noticed recently that Richard Dawkin’s new atheist club is called the Brights. Immediately I thought of Romans 1.22. However, we are all guilty of this. We all think we know best, and that God’s ways are archaic, out-of-touch, unrealistic, or whatever. Whenever we reject God’s ways, we are foolish.
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Verses 23-32 show how unrighteousness caused by thanklessness and not glorifying God degenerates. We have all been guilty of vv. 18-22, but not all nations have spiralled into what happens next. However, all nations without a strong Christian witness – or if they ignore that Christian witness – will spiral into this downward fall into unrighteousness.
After ungratefulness, comes an honouring of the creation. This takes many forms from the totem poles of tribal animism to the mother Earth philosophy infecting many facets of our society. Creation is given respect and God is ignored.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Following ignoring God over the creation comes sexual immorality. People have sex before and outside of marriage.
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Next the idolatry becomes more pronounced and people openly worship things that have been created.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Next the sexual immorality becomes more pronounced leading to a society which openly accepts homosexuality. If this happens to a society it is deeply in this spiral of unrighteousness.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
At this stage, what happens is that the people in that society will develop reprobate minds. The Greek word used for reprobate is adokimos which is used for counterfeit coins. It means to have no value at all – to not be fit for purpose. This is what is happening in large sections of Western society – people cannot use their minds at all. They cannot think, they cannot show initiative, they cannot create. All of society dumbs down. People then fail to notice any sin, any wickedness and simply let everything pass. Crime rates sht up, poverty and injustice increases and the society becomes a hard place to live in.
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
I could go through each of these words and show you what they mean exactly and you would realize that we are here people. However, most of them are self explanatory. When a society or a nation exhibits all these qualities it is simply showing the fruit of the fact that everyone fails to glorify God and fails to thank Him. It has just spiraled out of control.
Ultimately without the gospel, this will happen to every nation on the planet. Even with the gospel being present in a nation it still happens if people make unrighteous choices.
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Then, not only will people do all these unrighteous acts they will take pleasure in those that do them. The word take pleasure could also be translated applaud. Think about this: the Bible describes an unrighteous society at its apex as one where people worship the creation, treat homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle, disobey parents, invent evil things, hate God, hate people, and then finally clap and applaud people who do wicked things.
Our society has TV chat shows where you can clap and applaud people who divorce, comedy shows where you can clap and applaud people who hate and slander the government of our countries, romantic shows where you can clap and applaud people committing fornication and reality shows where you can clap and applaud people in all manner of wickedness.
Our society is unrighteous. Our planet is unrighteous. But before we judge the world and the nations and are smugly condeming of them, remember: I have failed to thank God and so have you. I have failed to glorify God and so have you. I have had vain imaginations and so have you. I have had a dark heart and so have you. On our next post we will show that we cannot judge anyone in a smug self-righteous way as we look at Romans 2.
We have to find out how a person like you and like me can be righteous. Otherwise we are condemned to hell on earth and hell after earth. Stay with us as we run through Romans, the journey will be worth it.